On lunchtime with Joe 12-2 on Monday 29th July. My guest will be psychotherapist and  counselling psychologist Dr. Natalie Cawley, talking about her book ‘Just About Coping ‘, and my second guest will be one of the founder members of the Rubettes Mick Clarke, now keeping up the good work in the Sugar Baby Loves. He’ll be talking about their new single Born To Do It.